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A comprehensive interview with the secretary general of the Islamic Jihad in Palestine·:

 Dr. Ramadan Abdullah Shallah

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-          On the eve of the sixtieth anniversary of the Palestinian Nakba, how do you evaluate the stage that the conflict with the Zionist project has reached?... where did this project fail?... where did it succeed?... what has really been achieved by the resistance forces, the people of Palestine and the nation at large?... and, what is the role of these forces in this dangerous stage of the conflict?.

 

At the beginning, it must be noted that answering this question would not be possible through only a few lines or a few pages, as the issue in question is rather a comprehensive computation project aimed at grasping the harvest of the sixty years of Nakba and the previous history of conflict.

 

Starting with ourselves, the sum was regrettably a series of defeats and retreats, whereas Arabs and Palestinians failed to achieve the objective of liberating Palestine.  As for what had been achieved in terms of steadfastness and limited or partial victories , during the past decades, some of these achievements were aborted- as has been the case with the 1973 victory- through Egypt's recognition of Israel and the signing of Camp David accords, while other achievements – such as the resistances' victories that prevented the loss of rights and the liquidation of the cause- could not reach the objective of liberation, which is the responsibility of the whole nation….

 

Regarding the harvest of the Zionist project, it succeeded in establishing the Israeli entity on the land of Palestine. However, it failed to transform this land into a safe homeland to which all Jews of the world could be brought…. Today, the number of Jews inside this entity is about five millions. Even though, the entity still suffers from a sharp identity crisis, either in terms of ethnic strifes, or as a result of conflicts between secularist and orthodox Jews. Moreover, this entity failed to merge into the region, and, despite all its breakthroughs recognized by some Arab regimes, it still acts as a fortress , a barracks or a ghetto, as witnessed by the racist wall in the West Bank… for the peoples of this region, it will always be a bizarre entity which must be removed… but the worst failure tested by the Zionist project was that it could not do away  with the Palestinian people, neither through genocide, as once perpetrated by the Americans against the red Indians, nor through completely uprooting it from its land, for, today, the Palestinian presence on the land of historic Palestine makes up a population of over five million people, approximately the same size as the Jewish presence there, and serves as the best guarantee to protect the Palestinian cause from liquidation… it is the duty of resistance forces, for their mission- under the current power balance- is far from achieving victory, but rather safeguarding the Palestinian cause against liquidation and preventing the loss of the nation's right in it.

 

-          What are the causes of Arab defeats and failures throughout the history of conflict, against the causes of the Zionist project's success in creating the Israeli entity... would it be possible to deepen the failures of this project and make use of them in managing the conflict?

 

By retail, the causes of defeats and the people responsible for them differed according to the conflict stages- the causes of the first Nakba, back in 1948, were much different from the causes of the second Nakba, later in 1967, and the two were different from those behind the transformation of the 1973 victory into a defeat, in Camp David (1978), and the disintegration after the 1991 Gulf war, up till the occupation of Iraq in 2003.

Generally, however, there are certain reasons that could almost make "common denominators" or constant factors through all stages… these are exactly the focus of our attention… they are such reasons as: the failure to understand the nature of the Zionist project; division ,split and the absence of national unity; regimes' and governments' dependence on outside forces; powers' imbalance ; and the alienation of Islam or the prevention of its role in managing the conflict on the part of these regimes…

These factors, per se (rather than the inoperative weapons, for example) were the ones that resulted in the first Nakba.

On the contrary, the Zionist project knew what it really wanted; it knew the nature of the enemy, carefully identified its goals and tools and mobilized not only the world Jewry, but also the superpowers, in its service… those superpowers were ready to play this role, as the Zionist enterprise had partly been a colonial one and a spearhead to the whole colonial west… the abovementioned relation provided the Zionist project with all means of material, moral, military, political, and organizational strength it needed, while, simultaneously , placing the Palestinians and Arabs under a total siege, at a time when these Arabs  lived a bitter reality  of division, dependence and backwardness, after some of them having been involved in conspiracy or deceived by colonial powers' promises regarding the contribution to the fall of the Ottoman Empire, as was the case with Sharif Hussein and others who bet on the west, which came in the first place to divide the Arab and Islamic Levant (Sykes- Pico, 1916) and the implant of the Israeli entity (Balfour's promise, 1917). The west had never forgot its bitter feelings nor its historic or dogmatic vengeances, whereas general Allenby stood up in Jerusalem in 1918, to say:"… today, the crusades are over…" and so did the French General Guru, who kicked Saladin's grave in Damascus and said"… Saladin, we are back…"!

 

The British mandate, or occupation of Palestine continued for about thirty years, during which the Zionist gangs- under the British umbrella – managed to bring into effect their project, based upon immigration, land appropriation and perpetrating massacres (Deir Yassin) in order to terrify the Palestinians and force them to leave, while the slogan of Arab official leaderships, inside and outside Palestine, was to bet on "our friend Britain", as happened during the 1936 strike which the Arab leaderships aborted trough calling the Palestinian people to relax and count on Britain's promises and, later, when the British declared the end of their mandatory rule the moment it became clear that the Zionist project was ripe and ready to declare the birth of the Zionist entity on 14/5/1948.

 

The Arab leadership was responsible for the 1948 Nakba. However, the causes of defeat did not vanish with the disappearance of the leaderships… and the nationalists' tide era of the 50's and the 60's was in no better condition, despite the presence of high morale fueled by a call to liberate Palestine, fight and defeat the colonists and vanquish Israel… hence, the disaster and defeat of 1948 tasted much more bitter, with the fall of Jerusalem and the further occupation of the rest of Palestine in addition to more than three fold its area of Arab lands in Sinai and the Golan heights… furthermore, the October 1973 war failed to wipe out the causes and effects of defeat, as which as it failed to remove the bearings of aggression… as demanded by the Arabs after their defeat, because the October victory has quickly been transformed into another defeat as a result of Sadat's recognition of Israel and the beginning of new stage in the history of conflict: the stage of acceptance and recognition of Israel , which had been perpetuated until the region has arrived at Madrid conference (1991) and, then, the disaster of signing Oslo accords in 1993, which presented a revolution in the history of conflict, the effects of which are still felt today…

 

The important variant, since the inception of the so called" Middle East settlement" in Madrid (1991), after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the victory of the United states in the cold war and the emergence of what was called a unipolar international system, has been the rise of Islamic movements' role in the resistance, especially Hamas and the Islamic Jihad in Palestine and Hezbollah in Lebanon… from that date on, the Arab regime almost quit the arena of the Arab- Israeli conflict, as the alleged peace with Israel  has become its strategic choice and the armed struggle against Israel rested with the resistance forces…. As the United States declared its war against the alleged Islamic terrorism… (at least most of it) joined an alliance with the united states, which returned with its new colonial appearance to occupy Iraq in 2003, with the help and blessings of many Arab states… this confirms the fact that the nation still foots the bills for the misperception of the real nature of the conflict with the Zionist project and the Israeli entity on the part of those regimes and rulers who once took upon themselves the duty of managing this conflict…

 

-          Regarding the nature of the Zionist project and the struggle against it, there are those who consider "Israel" a colonial phenomenon, rather than a Jewish one… they say: "Israel is a functional entity implanted in the heart of the nation"… what is your opinion of this matter and how do you see the role and function of this entity? Has this role changed since its inception until today? What would the future of this role look like in the light of transformations in international relations and the changes in the international alliances of the Israeli entity?

       

…Also, this question encompasses more than one delicate and complex issue…I will do my best to clarify the picture which may not look clear enough for many people…

First… is "Israel" a Jewish phenomenon or a colonial phenomenon?... the answer is simple: it represents the two, yet, saying the Israeli is not a Jewish phenomenon would be considered- for us and according to our thought- something ruled out by the Qura'an and history refused by reality….

Away from the argument about the definition of the Jews and the "children of Israel" in the Qura'an and history and whether the Jews are other than the children of Israel… are they the same? are Today's Jews or children of Israel the same people mentioned in the Qura'an?... away from this argument, we say the glorious Qura'an affirms that Jews are the and will be present until the day of resurrection and will not become extinct… in the Ma'eda (Sura 5 of holy Qura'an) it reads: "we tossed hostility and hatred among them until resurrection day " verse 64. and in the Al- A'raf (Sura 7 of holy Qura'an), it says:" So your lord announced that he would send someone against them who would impose the worst torment on them until resurrection Day" (Verse 167).

 

… if the Jews present in Palestine, with those who support them of world Jewry, were not the ones mentioned by Qura'an, then where are the Jews whom the Qura'an talks about?... it is widely known that all Jews of the world, except for a very small and ineffective minority, support and buttress up Israel's project…

 

After mentioning them and confirming that someone would be sent against them who would impose the worst torment on them, the Qura'an says:"… we split them into nations" (sura: 7, verse: 168). Which means they spread over the whole world… when the Qura'an describes the arrogance and perversion of the children of Israel, in the Israa' sura, it says to them:"… settle down in the land, when the promise about the Hereafter comes along, we will bring you in as rubble…" (Verse: 104).

 

… We think this verse describes their coming along to establish the Israeli entity in this age. Thus, we believe Israel is a Jewish phenomenon, but also the most powerful and flagrant expression of this phenomenon in history…. But the important thing is how understand this issue…

 

There might be some digression in our discourse. However, it is useful to make clear that we believe the universal message of Islam is the seal of heavenly messages to all mankind and all that came in its original source, the Qura'an, aims to inform and enable the nation that bears this message to exercise its role in leading the human kind with Islam- a role which did not end by the revelation era, but rather continues to the end of the world, until Judgment day … Hence, what is mentioned in the Qur'an about the "Jews" and "children of Israel" has not been for the purpose of amusement through telling ancient stories irrelevant to the Islamic nations reality or future in the confrontation against this human group-the Jews … On the contrary, we estimate that , when reporting on the Jews or children of Israel's past, in the revelation era, with such concentration, the Qur'an talks of the future of the Muslim nations and the danger of the role that Jews would play in their conflict against this nation. For this reason, the Jewish phenomenon … actually, the Israeli phenomenon … is readily and strongly attendant in the Qur'an to explain to us what had really happened in the history of Jews and the children of Israel ("… this reading tells the children of Israel most of what they have been differing over"- Al-Naml (the Ants), Verse 76, sura 27) and what they did in confronting the Islamic message, when their role ended and their leadership ceased upon the diversion of the heavenly message they once bore… consequently, this role moved to the best community produced by God for all mankind ("you are the best community which has been produced for mankind. You commande decency and forbid dishonor, and you believe in God..." (AL- IُMran (The house of Imran) verse 110, sura: 3)… when we read the text of this verse, we discover that the rest of the same verse talks about the Jews ("if the people of the book would you believe, it would be better for them; some of them are believers while most of them are perverse…") Al-Imran (the house of Imran), verse: 110, sura: 3)…

The Qur'anic sequence goes on  describing the Jews, their conditions in the confrontation with the nation of Islam and their position on the selection of the Islamic nation to bear the trust of Islam and mono theism and the dismissal of Jewish guardianship of this, after they failed in the test, as mentioned in the Isra'a sura: (…We gave Moses the book and granted it a guidance for the Children of Israel: "Do not accept any defender except Mel…) (Al-Isra'a [The Night Journey], sura 17, verse:2)… This means the precondition for such a heavenly selection is belief and mono theism (… Do not accept any defender except me...).

In the Al-Imran sura (the same verse cited above) we read His word, be He exalted: (If the people of the book would only believe, it would better for them…), which means they have failed in the "belief text", hence the Islamic nation has been "produced" to lead humankind… However, Jews did not, and would not, acquiesce to that, and the Isra'a sura talks of the children of Israel's arrogance, perverted ness, their conflict with Muslims and the result of this conflict… one con refer to the interpretation of these verses as there are too many books and studies that explain the verses on the children of Israel in light of the current struggle against the Zionist project…

This has been a quick and brief enlightenment of whether or not Israel is a Jewish phenomenon… Discretions on these subjects are too abundant and extensive to cover… Yet, what really supports this reading is history, of which we are interested in the tokens that paved the way for the establishment of Israel in the Western world and how the religious became mixed with the mundane or the Jewish with the colonial, as far as the Jews and the colonial forces are concerned, in a way that resulted in the convergence of interests towards the establishment of the Israel: entity. Since the mightiest superpower that protects and supports Israel in its sixtieth anniversary is the United State, it would not be exaggerated if we say, in this memory of "nakba" that the calamity for the Palestinian people had started since the discovery of America… This is not just a shear fanciful prose, nor some kind of empty slogan, as the discovery of America, or what was called the "new world" at that time, took place in 1425, the same date of both Granda's fall down and the beginning of the Islamic civilizantional descent, in spite of the few breakthroughs accomplished by the ottoman empire – a declination that reached the bottom on June 5m 1967, when, at the same time, the Zionist project had reached its peak in terms of atrocity and perversion…

We do not wish to go into the folder of the nation's condition when the decline started. However, it is important for us to say that the discovery of America had a profound effect on the western civilization, with what it offered to Europe in terms of resources and power to run the colonial machine in all directions… In this folder, we must search for Jews, their tools, aspirations and problems in the world… not with the logic of conspiracy, but rather with the logic of one who seeks to understand the roots of the problem…

Many in our nation concentrate on Balfour's Declaration as a beginning of the British and European role in the call for a Jewish national home in Palestine… It has already been known that the "story" did not begin with Balfour's Declaration… Napoleon, whose invasion of Egypt in 1798 had been start for the modern western Crusade against our nation, promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine… Moreover, the intermarriage between Judaism and western Christianity did not begin in the reign of neo cons like Donald Ramsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, nor with Zionist – American evangelists like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falewell… The alliance and coexistence between Judaism and Christianity began with Protestantism and Martin Luther King in the nineteenth century as an alliance that found its embodiment in a combination of the Jewish Torah and The New Testament in what was called in the west: "The Bible"… Luther is the one who wrote "Jesus Was Borne a Jew" (1533) and started what some has called "Judaizing Christianity"… a Judaizing process that would not end with the evangelists or clergymen who emplaned the seeds of "Zionist Christianity" in the Seventeenth Century, like Britman (1588) and Cromwell (1655) and others like Calischer Hess and Pinsher, who called for a Jewish return to Palestine… This process encompassed politicians like British Parliamentarian Sir Menry Fisch, who called on Jews to return to Palestine in 1615… In 1840, Palmerstone, the famous British Minister of Foreign Affairs, talked about the "Hebrews colonization of Syria" (which then included Palestine as well)… and, when Benjamin Disraeli, the Jewish evangelical Christian, reaches Premiership in a great colonial state like Britain, the matter would no more stop at Judaizing Christianity, but rather the whole world!...

The story of European Jewry and the role of Jewish money in forming an alliance with the colonial and European greedy Projects, as well as in the settlement of Palestine (as was the case with the famous Rothschild capitalist Jewish family) is a well Known story that has not ended yet… Today, there are dozens of effective Zionist Christian organizations in the United states that are primarily concerned with supporting and financing Israel, including "The American Christian Trust for Israel"… This Zionist Christian bank finances Jewish settlement constructions in the West Bank and the rest of Palestine…How ever, when an Islamic Charity sponsors a Palestinian orphan whom the Jews killed his father, this charitable association faces the possibility of being placed on the terror list because of its Islamic feature… where as a Christian bank that finances Jewish settlement does not face such a possibility… no objection!..

…True… Israel is a colonial Jewish Phenomenon, as witnessed by reality… Its Jewish ness, rather than the Trans formation of its colonial nature, as substitution colonism, is the fact that explains its survival despite the demise of all the colonial entities of the Twentieth century… It considers that its fateful battle is for safeguarding its Jewish nature and establishing itself as a Jewish state, supported by the United States which carries the entire western – colonial and mythical – religious heritage with its Talmudic and Biblical origins that support and protect Israel… For this reason, we have said that Palestine "nab" began ever since America had been discovered, as America Provided Europe with enough strength to implant Israel and is still playing an direct role in assisting an safeguarding it…

A final point in this respect, after all this prolongation, is Israel role or function in the region…

 True, "Israel" is a functional entity created under certain slogans and by religious mobilization, with the aim of achieving political and strategic goals in the western civilization conflict against our nation… Nevertheless, this role man differs according to the stages of conflict… Any how, the west has consistently sought – through supporting the Zionist movement and establishing the Zionist entity – to achieve several objectives:

1)     Europe's desire for getting rid of Jews and solving the Jewish problem.

2)     Taking control of the strategic location of Palestine amid the continents;

3)     Creating a geographic barrier between Egypt and North Africa, on the one hand, and its Arab depth and extension in the Arabian peninsula, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq, on the other hand;

4)     Establishing division and partition and preventing the unification of the nation;

5)     Achieving and protecting western interests in the region…

The entity still maintains its role in achieving these goals, with some changes and details that could come upon a certain goal, such as making firm the state of division which did not end at Sykes – Pico but rather goes on in away that further divides the a already divided Arab and Islamic world and inflames ethnic, sectarian and confessional seditions… In addition, the western interests in the region today means, in the first place, the American interests and keenness on controlling oil supplies and protecting Israel, regardless of the profound argument over "who protects the interests of whom?... America or Israel?" Yet, the important thing in the Israeli role today is that Israel, the population of which constitute less than one percent of what is called the Middle East, strives to become the overwhelming great power in this region – A domination that is no more dependent on western support, nor on the Zionist military strength, but rather on some Arab states acceptance of, and even official alliance with Israel.. For some Arabs, Israel is no more the enemy and the Zionist movement is no more criminal and racist... As long as the United Nations has dropped this charge off Israel, why do not the Arabs follow suit? Even more… having the cheek to openly face Zionism in the world, to day, is a punishable crime according to laws and who ever dares to do that would certainly be charged with anti – Semitism…

Even in some Arab countries… alas… In Egypt, for example, criminal laws were amended to delete the term "Zionism" and other expressions related to certain actions that the Egyptian statutes had previously considered a political and national crime which calls for the severest punishment… In more than one Arab country, there are attempts to change school curricula and omit Qur'anic verses and prophetic Hadith [traditions] that refer to Jews… In addition to that, we have lived, seen and headed of an Arab Israeli security coordination, as Israel's security has become part of Arab national security for some Arab regimes, while resisting Israel and confronting its aggression against Arabs have become a threat to the Arab security!!

Concerning Israel's preparations to face any change in the power –balance and International alliances, the Israelis have been working to maintain the closest military, security and economic relations with rising great powers like India and China, in addition to their presence in and infiltration of most countries of Southeast Asia, the former Soviet Union, East Europe and Africa… They also try to stretch out, like an octopus, in order to reach the most remote place in the world…

Inspire of all this, we are neither totally frustrated nor desperate regarding the confrontation with Israel, no matter how strong it is... Arrogant, perverse and false as it is, Israel is in clash with the Devine will, before being so with humankind… and the Qur'an, in the verses of Al – Maida sura which we Have previously talked about, affirms this fact about the Jews: […Every time they kindle a fire for war, God snuffs it out. They rush around the earth creating havoc. God does not like those who create havoc…] (Al-Ma'ida [The Table]. Sura: 6, verse"64)… Their fire has been blazing up in Palestine for more than a century… We are sure that God (be He exalted) will snuffs it out, not with a miracle, as was the case with the fire of Abraham (peace be upon him), but rather on the hands of td mujahideen [strugglers] and believers; God's soldiers who merit his support and assistance, until the Devine promise is realized ([…our army will be victorious over them…] [(Drawn up in) RANKS – AL – Saffat, Soura: R3, verse: 173]).

-          Let us return back to the causes of defeat… there are those who think Arabs and Palestinians have lost too many chances and, if they had adopted a flexible and realistic policy from the beginning and agreed to the partition of Palestine, for example, things would not have gone this far today… what would you say about that?

 

…Regrettably, these are fallacies spread by advocates of compromise… it even reaches the level of prosecuting the history of our struggle, all the way to the extent of actually "apologizing" to Israel or paying "compensations" for all our wars and confrontations with it… As Mo'ammar Qathafi ironically said in the last Damascus Arab Summit, mocking the current Arab stance in dealing with the Palestine cause and the Zionist – American invasion in the region.

If the prosecution of our history begins with taking the partition plan as a start point or feeling regret at the loss of a chance to act moderately, then, we ask:… What partition plan are they talking about? that of 1937, 1938, 1944 or 1947, or maybe they are talking about the White paper of 1939?... The colonial powers, especially the United States and Britain, had been trying to turn Palestine and the nation in it into and experimental ground where projects were engineered based on maneuver and deception, in order to buy time and impose a fait accompli that would allow the establishment of the (Zionist) entity's state and realize the promises made to Jews by the West…

It has been widely known that Arabs rejected the partition plan of 1947 as it gave the Jews 55% of the total area of Palestine, whereas the Jewish control did not exceed 6% of the land at that time… in addition, the Jewish population of Palestine, which had been increasing as a result of the accumulation of immigration waves since the end of the nineteenth century, constituted no more than 33%... Also, the Zionist intentions were well Known and clearly declared… …Ben – Gurion, who rejected – in 1938 – the partition plan suggested by the British Technical Commission, as he did before to the peel commission project, said in front of the Jewish Agency: "…We shall work on removing the Arab – Jewish partition and controlling all Palestine, after the Jews have grown stronger.." This is exactly what happened… As for the Jewish acceptance of partition, it was but a maneuver to gain legitimacy… If non – Arab and non – Islamic states like Greece, India and Cuba had rejected partition and other countries, such as china and Britain, refrained from casting a vote for the resolution in the United Nations, what do you think the Arab position could have been?... Even America, which agreed to partition, was about to back down on the partition idea and suggest regency as an alternative… However, as noted in historical sources, Haim Weizman went to New York to meet secretly with President Truman in March, 1947, where the two agreed that United Stares continues to support the partition project which lent legitimacy to the establishment of a Jewish state on the land of Palestine… At that time, Truman promised Weizman to recognize the (Jewish) state once declared…

The same historical sources also reveal that as soon as it was known, on May 14, that the Jewish state will be declared that midnight, Tel-Aviv local time (or six a.m., Washington mean time), Truman's Zionist – Christian chief advisor, Clark Cliford, asked Elyahu Ebstein, representative of the Jewish Agency in Washington, to send on official message to President Truman before noon, the same bay, demanding the United states recognition of Jewish state upon declaring it.. Evstein turned to Jewish lawyers (proposed by cliford) for assistance in phrasing the letter... But, then a problem came up: No one Knew the name of the would – be state…

Finally, it was agreed to refer in the message to "The Jewish State" and that the envoy carries that message to the White House, according to some sources, and listens on the way to the radio, to Know the name… when he knew it, the envoy crossed "The Jewish State" and wrote "Israel" in its place… and the rest of the story is well known – Truman recognized Israel only 11 minutes after Ben – Gurion had announced the creation of the state… when Israel demanded, later in 1948, to join the united Nations, only two members of the security Council – the United States and the (former) Soviet Union – agreed to that demand…

We most confidently say: The real position of the Jews was that they refused partition because their aim was the whole land of Palestine… Even more, Ben – Gurion saw that Israel's northern borders must be along the Litani River in Lebanon, not to mention the ultimate goal of extending Israel borders from the Nile to the Euphrates…

Hence, when Count Bernadot, the U.N mediator, proposed his "Partition Plan" regarding Palestine, in September 1948, giving the Negev area to the Arabs, he was assassinated by Jews for that reason... Today, after sixty years, Bush comes to celebrate the creation of Israel and resurrect the term "Jewish state", which the message carrier to the White House had crossed out long ago, not as an alternative (name) to "Israel", but rather as a property and an identity…

Through this narration, or prolongation, we wanted to recall some facts that can probably highlight the real nature and identity of the conflict, before someone tries to impose on us a single choice or path to solve it: the oath of settlement adopted by advocates of realism and rationalism... and such depictions!

Those have already tried their luck… What was the result? Some who had previously blamed the Arabs for refusing to divide the land back in 1947 went to Oslo, in 1993, and accepted to divide the land "and the people"… Even more, the partition of land and people began with the 1974 staged program which demanded a "Palestinian Authority" inside the 1967 border lines, discounting other Palestinians in Diaspora and in the 1948 territories…

Since then, they have been transforming the Palestinian people into a "Guinea pig" inside the laboratories of political descent... In 1977, during the thirteenth session of the National Palestinian Council, the Ten-Points or Staged – Program "Authority" was turned into a "Palestinian State" and, in the sixteenth session, later in 1983, they demanded a "confederation" with Jordan… Then the "State" was degraded once more to a "Palestinian entity" linked to Jordan within the scope of a confederation (Amman Agreement – 1985) and, in 1988, under the "Declaration of Independence" (Algeria), they went back to "The Independent Palestinian State" and accepted – a settlement based upon Resolution//242//… …Accordingly, at the end of the same year, Arafat recognized Israel, accepted U.N. Re so lution//242// and rejected the armed resistance by disavowing "violence and terrorism" and making null and void the "National Covenant" which once called for the destruction of Israel.. Until they arrived at Oslo Agreements and the official recognition of Israel… What was the result? By all measures, the Oslo Agreements are more dangerous than both calamities of 1948 and 1967… If we called the loss of land and the forceful displacement of its people a "calamity" (nakba), then the land and right to exist on this land is more dangerous... it is the utmost calamity…

The Palestinian recognition of Israel grants it measure of legitimacy which it can never be granted by any one else, even if the Whole world – other than the Palestinians – recognized Israel's existence… Yasser Arafat was aware of that and, when he tried to go beyond the limits of the text or scenario sketched by decision – making circles in Tel – Aviv and Washington, what was the outcome?... Arafat was liquidated… the same fate awaits anyone who refuses to liquidate the Palestinian cause…

In short, contrary to what some Arabs and Palestinians think, there is no peaceful solution that can redeem our right under the current power – balance… A bitter and longstanding conflict still goes on over an indivisible land… Ben –Gurion himself understood this and said: "…There is no solution… As for his position on the partition idea, he repeatedly noted that land is a one whole that can never be divided and that the conflict is between two sides, but land can belong to only one of them… For Israel, the whole land of Palestine belongs to the Israelis and the Israelis are the rightful owners who have the right to lay hold of it by force, deception or even by end less negotiations and evasive methods that can buy more time, according to Shamir…

For us, it is not an issue of realism or unrealism... as the conflict is between two sides, one of them has the right and does not have a strength equivalent to his enemy's, but can acquire power or transform the simplest weapon into a lethal and deferent one (as is the case with martyrs operations) in order to set a "terror balance, similar to what happened in the first intifada [uprising], while the other side has strength, might and ferocity, but has no right… In this equation, land must belong either to the first side, who has the right, or to the other, who has the strength…

Today, the Arab "regime" says: "…Take whatever crumbling offered to you by Israel, because today we have not got enough power to face neither it nor America!" Which means this right – in the culture of the Arab "regime" – is the one that can only be established by means of force and made by the Israeli Merkava tank…? However, their problem is that the Palestinian people has been capable of destroying this tank and, in July 2006 war, the Lebanese resistance turned the Merkava – once a source of pride for the Israeli Industries – into a laughing – stock to world armies and weaponry…

In memory of the calamity, we ask advocates of settlement in the Arab "regime"… and the Palestinian regime: "…What did this settlement bring on us other than destruction and negligence of our right!? Since the Summit of 1982, Arabs have chosen the path of settlement and advocacy of the right of all people of the region to live in peace, in an indication to Israel… They also showed readiness, time after time, to pay the price for peace: to let Israel have security in the region, as if the usurper, aggressor and gladiator were the one who needs security! Yet, what was the result? Has Israel changed its doctrine and strategy in dealing with Arabs and Palestinians? Perhaps Israel's announcement of building more settlements in the West Bank, in the aftermath of Annapolis "Carnival", holds the answer to this question!

 

-          How does The Islamic Jihad Movement view the fate of negotiations between Mahmoud "Abbas" Authority and Olmert's government in light of the United States insistence on resuming these negotiations and achieving important results, as noted by Bush during his visit to Palestine to declare Israel a Jewish state, in the sixtieth anniversary of the "nakba" and the creation of the (Zionist) entity?... is there still a chance to establish an independent Palestinian state based on June 67 borders?

 

 Let us begin with the last point and say: The two – state – solutions or, indeed, the project of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state along the 67 borders, is improbable, but also impossible in light of reality and the facts imposed by Israel on the ground… For us, it has always been so and this is our view according to our understanding of the Zionist entity's nature and objectives... Regrettably, however, others have been stickling!

With regard to negotiations, the prospect of reaching the so called "final solution" by the end of this year (2008), as sought by President of the Palestinian Authority, is almost – or maybe totally – hopeless… We think all that can be reached in this respect is a new "declaration of Principles", The aim of which is to keep the settlement alive because, failing an agreement capable of reviving the same old promises and illusions, the whole settlement process, as well as the "Authority project", would most certainly collapse… and I do not think the players can afford letting things go that for… …In the context of the Authority's oppressive actions against and pursuit of the resistance in the West Bank, in coordination with the enemy and according to Oslo and the Roadmap, they need some kind of agreement which may serve as a cover to this role and a justification behind the existence of the Authority in the West Bank and the services offered by Israel to its "men", allowing the continuation of the delusion that the settlement process is still on…

In case an agreement has been reached, regardless its nature and content, we think such an agreement would precipitate the liquidation of the cause, as it would either involve new concessions or make May for future ones… The reason is that the Palestinian interlocutor has no leverage to support and consolidate his stance... The domestic situation in Palestine, under the Fatah- Hamas split, is in its worst state and the Arab support claimed by Arab countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, is not aimed at preventing a slide that would entail new concessions, but rather comes in the context of a seemingly anticipated readiness to provide an Arab cover for any agreement, no matter the size of concessions it takes… This goes against the Arab Position which Yasser Arafat fell back upon to escape the trap set to him in Camp David – 2000, when he demanded that Clinton and Barak obtain Saudi and Egyptian approval of any concession regarding Jerusalem and the refugees' right of return… Today, there is a conviction that the Arab official posture is regrettably ready to any bargain, irrespective of the price (the important thing is that we get relieved of this "head ache" called "the Palestine cause")!

Any how, we can repeat again that the prospect of establishing an independent and sovereign Palestinian state along the' 67 borders is hopeless and, in our opinion, the Road map never included such a Promise… Here comes Bush to talk about "identifying the features of the Palestinian state", rather than the establishment of such a state before the end of his presidency… No one knows how many years it would take to reach statehood guided by such features, or whether reaching statehood would be possible on any account! We think the self – government project will remain the basis for any settlement with the Palestinians… As for the "features" imagined by Bush and other, they may – at best – lead to a certain form of a "Jordanian alternative", involving a role for Jordan in the West Bank, as well as an Egyptian role in Gaza Strip where – as a result of Oslo agreements and the reality forced on the ground, with what has been established as a reflection of the current division – the Palestinian "state" would be no more than an entity totally detached from the West Bank Moreover, the declaration of and insistence on the principle of Israel's "Jewishness" threaten the fate of the 48 Palestinians whose elimination has long been the dream of the entity's leaders… Even more, complexities of the situation on hand, over lapping regional files and the entity's perception of the existential danger may ultimately drive Israel to try to make true its historical dream of "transfer" or what is called "purging by mean of deportation"… something it had previously done in 1948 and would not mind doing it again through the displacement of the rest of the Palestinians from Palestine if the current power – balance remained as it is.

 

-          Some believe there has been a certain development in the political thought of Hamas… they also believe it may try to duplicate the experience of fatah Movement as the latter declared its acceptance of a Palestinian state along the 67 borders and, most recently, during a meeting with Carter, in Damascus, Fatah showed readiness to agree on whatever final solution Mahmoud Abbas signs, on condition that the Palestinian people also agree on the proposed solution in a referendum.. On its part, the Islamic Jihad Movement considered this "extremely dangerous"… What is the real position of the Jihad Movement on these developments? Do you refuse the principle of conducting such a referendum? What is the Islamic Jihad Movement's strategy with respect to the political project set to tackle the Palestine issue vis-à-vis the settlement strategy advocates and also Hamas' strategy, especially that some people claim the Islamic Jihad lack a clear strategy and have nothing but refusal?

 

 Let me begin with the strategy question… If it were permissible to use the self  defense logic against accusations of lacking a strategy, I would confidently and humbly say that no one has a strategy like that of the Islamic Jihad Movement… So would be the case if we accept the fact that a strategy means some kind of a vision capable of producing goals, a path and the proper tools to achieve these goals... The problem is that some people do not accept this description of strategy… Today, the prevailing mood urges you to use the language of politically marketable bargains in the international political stock market; otherwise, you would most certainly be accused of lacking a strategy… Yes, we have a profound vision on the conflict in Palestine, based on our world view, the locations of our nation and our enemies on the global map, and also on the future of this conflict and this map, according to a human action consistent with the universal and historical norms set by God, whom we believe in, be he exalted, as stated in the Holy Qur'an: […He alone is God in Heaven and God on Earth...] (Al-Zukhruf [Luxury], sura: 43, verse: 84)… As for those who believe that "…He" is God in Heaven…" and "America" is God on earth, are not expected to acknowledge our strategy… Our view, regarding the whole world, ourselves (as Arabs and Palestinians), Palestine and Israel (which was created on its ruins in the heart of the nation and the world), simply makes us all the more insistent on that our strategic goal is the "liberation of Palestine", the whole Palestine, which means our strategy, is a "liberation strategy"…

Still, we understand that this goal can not be achieved under the present power – balance and that this mission is not exclusively the mission of the Jihad Movement, but of the entire nation… However, we can not abandon it… under any circumstances… The means of achieving this goal is "Jihad": resistance and armed struggle… For governments and armies, it is the way of "regular wars"…and the nation has waged wars for Palestine… For peoples, it is the option of armed popular resistance… Regular wars may stop but the armed popular resistance would continue… However, even if the two stopped, we shall never relinquish our will to liberate, struggle and resist, nor shall we replace it with the "will to compromise", as the will to liberate is the one that generates the "will to resist"…But if and when we are lead to feel desperate regarding the "liberation goal", no one would even think of shooting one bullet or prepare himself to do that, as was the case with president of the Palestinian authority – Mahmoud "Abbas – and the people around him…

As for our selves, we say: …In the absence of liberation or Jihad, for the sake of liberation, the alternative is patience and stead fastness, until god permits a better situation… If our enemies seek to exploit our hapless state in order to have our signature on a "cession of rights and home land", this will never happen, not even of one inch of our land...

 

This is the case in principle... On the practical side and in our struggle and political movement, facts have proved that the Jihad Movement have been the most consistent – in the Palestinian arena – with their basic grounds and objectives… in each and every expressed position on our part… we refused to be dragged down to any political program or project that may keep us away from our goals or deviate our compass… This does not mean that we are suffering from any defect or incapacity… Only God is perfect…

With regard to the posture of our brothers in Hamas and the Movement's development on the level of political thought towards the acceptance of staged performance and subdivided objectives, we do not claim that Hamas duplicated the Fatah experience… How ever, it the Islamic Movement, benefit from this experience… During twenty years, from the partial Arab victory of October 1973 till the Oslo calamity in 1993 and, on the Palestinian scene, form the staged program to the [Palestinian] Liberation organization's recognition of Israel, in spite of the fact that the latter occupies the whole Palestinian soil, our brothers in Fatah have completed a horrible down falling cycle of the life time of a long standing historical conflict like the one that still goes on for Palestine… Since the partial concession is but a step towards the solution that redeems all rights… Yet, what was the result?

…what was the harvest of two decades of this experiment? The partial concession has become a step towards total concessions… In our opinion, it was a corollary… because, the moment you put your feet on the path of this political game, you will find yourself, in time, a prisoner of this prisoner of this game, over whelmed by its rules, in a context set under a power – balance that would force you to make concession and strip you of your rights, but all this would happen through political deception, so that the concessions look acceptable… It is natural… If the power – balance had been in the Arabs and Palestinians' favor, Israel would have long disappeared from the map… but such thing did not happen, as leaders of the Zionist project have been to tally aware of what they always wanted, as we have mentioned above.

If we compare the course of the Zionist project to the experience of the Arab or National Palestinian Liberation Movement, we shall come to an amazing conclusion: The difference is strikingly drastic… Since the first 1897 Zionist conference in Basel - Switzerland, until the establishment of the entity in 1948, the Zionist project has not changed its goals nor backed down on the establishment of the entity by means of wars and hostilities… In the 1951 twenty third Zionist conference, in Jerusalem, after the creation of the entity, the goal was to support and protect Israel and call for more Jews of the world to immigrate to it, according to what was called "The Law of Return" which Ben – Gurion had obtained from the Israeli Knesset in 1950… During fifty years (1897 – 1947), the Zionist project accomplished the creation of Israel with out changing even one letter with regard to this objective… As for the National and Arab Liberation Movement, what happened to the P.L.O's covenant and objectives during ten year's (1964 – 1974)? And, in the course of thirty years, until 1994? What was the "harvest"? The P.L.O's leadership returned to west Bank and Gaza Strip, under an Israeli occupation, to be the enemy's partner in safeguarding Israel's security and oppressing the Palestinian resistance which they disgraced and depicted as "Terrorist"!...

 

Of all this, what is important to us is to warn against rolling down to the "checker of breaking political taboos"… When, for example, [Abd – El-] Nasser agreed on Rogers plan in 1970, before negotiating Israel on the basis of U.N. resolution 242 (which meant the recognition of Israel), Fatah Movement refused that, driven by the fact that the logic of a revolution is different from the logic of a state… In other words, the logic held by fatah as a revolution was other than that of Egypt the state… However, breaking taboos by an Arab leader of Nasser's gravity implanted the seeds of Israel's acceptability on both sides, "Egypt the state" and "Fatah the revolution", which resulted in the signing of Camp David (accords) and the peace treaty, by Sadat, in 1979, and – later – Oslo and the official Palestinian recognition of Israel in 1993…

Those who talk of Hamas' duplication of the fatah experience think Hamas is trying to shorten time and jump over stages… In our opinion, measuring time is not the important thing in this matter! The Important thing is to identify the turning point or the beginning of deviation in the [political] course… Previously, we said in other occasions that some kind of "mixing up the cards" has been taking place in the Palestinian arena since Hamas first entered the elections and took part in government… what some of the movement's leaders call "the democratic game"… Since then, observers have held two pictures of Hamas: "Hamas the Authority" and "Hamas the resistance" – two much different profiles, as "authority" is something, observers can not tell the difference as who is talking: is it "Hamas the authority" or "Hamas the resistance"? …Until this moment, Hamas is still trying to keep some distance between the two profiles or, at least, control the relation between them… However, it is rather difficult and troublesome to maintain this process… to combine two antipodes like "authority" and "resistance" and draw clear cut boundaries between what is strategic and what is tactical, not to mention the difficulty of identifying "red lines" that can not be over stepped… This is a rather difficult and dangerous issue…

For example, if we take the issue of recognition or unrecognizing of Israel… this issue belongs to the strategic dimension in managing the conflict… which means it is a strategic issue that should not be touched or maneuvered at, neither directly nor indirectly… As for Hamas, the position is still stead fastness at this point… and we declare our support and backing to the movement in this regard, though we are not part of the authority on any account… How ever, when Hamas sometimes expressed unclear stances that may implicitly mean a recognition of Israel (i.e. accepting a state along the 67 borders), we feel we are close to the circle of danger that affects the strategic issues… and, when Hamas quickly an announce that their acceptance of a state along the 67 borders does not mean their recognition of Israel (what we really believe is the case), Hamas' posing of this idea (a state along the 67 borders) becomes worthless in the eyes of those who have been targeted with this posture by the movement… Nevertheless, we believe the negative effect of such rhetoric outweighs its positive one, as it does not serve the interests of "Hamas the authority" as much as it harms the interests of "Hamas the resistance"… The evidence of this is that we can find strategic Jewish figures, like Henry Kissinger, shlomo Gazit and Ari Shabit, who demand ignoring Hamas' posture on the issue of accepting or rejecting the recognition of Israel and call for a recognition of and a dialogue with the movement about settlement… why? …No only because Hamas enjoy considerable gravity in the Palestinian arena, but also because those are interested the generalization of the settlement rhetoric and culture, so that settlement becomes a general climate in which every one in the region can take part… In such stances, they simply say: "…Let us get Hamas enter the settlement arena and become a player in the brain – wash workshop still lacks legitimacy in the eyes of the peoples who hate and reject Israel… But when the Islamic and resistant Hamas talk on behalf of these work shops owners, things would certainly look different from that with others…

When, for example, a prominent Hamas leader says: "…No peace can be made without Hamas…" after the pattern of "…no war can be waged without Egypt and no peace can be made without Syria"…, Then, what does this mean? What Kind of peace is referred to here?

As you know, there is peace that Israel wants – a peace that Israel wants – a peace without Palestine, but also a "peace for food", as they used to say in the days of Sadat… which means: Palestinians should relinquish most of their land and their total sovereignty over and, in return, they would be allowed to live there, on certain small parts of this land, as human beings that do nothing but eat and drink!.. There is also peace as desired by the "Arab regime" and Oslo Authority – a peace with Israel for the purpose of security… The goal of this sort of peace is to guarantee and safeguard Israel's security, which means it is not substantially different from "Israel's peace"! finally, there is "Hamas' peace", with the whole land of Palestine from the river to the sea and without Israel… We all know that the power – balance which prevents the production of a peace desired by the "Arab regime" and Oslo Authority is the same one that makes it impossible to achieve a "Hamas' peace"… In spite of this, the west, Israel and the "Arab regime" would certainly welcome such a rhetoric because, when a rhetoric of this kind comes from Hamas, or any one in the movement, in a time when the world of politics seems full of talks about final solution negotiations (we all know that such a solution, no matter how it looks, would be based upon final recognition of Israel's existence), then this rhetoric – regardless of its real intentions – would ultimately serve the settlement project and boost its credid through spreading the settlement's rhetoric, lingo and terminology… and I do not think Hamas would want such thing, nor would the movement's public, allies and all those who bet on it…

Here, we come close to the referendum issue concerning any final solution reached by Mahmoud Abbas and Israel… As for intentions, we are not worried about the substantial position of our brothers in Hamas… I know their Speech is a kind of political maneuver… Yet, this raises an important question: does this "final solution", in the frame – work of the ongoing settlement process, fall in the "strategic" or "tactical" category? I believe every one knows the answer, to the extent that there is no need to discuss it! This is on the one hand… On the other hand, what is the position on the referendum issue, principally and practically? If the aim of the referendum is to hear what people say about a certain matter, then, no objection… this is "Shura" [consultation]… and it is a duty… no question... (…and consult with them on the matter…) Al – Imran [The House of Imran], sura: 3 verse: 159)… (…and whose business is [conducted] through mutual consultation among themselves…) Al – Shura [consultation], sure: 25, verse: 38)… However, the question remains: in what matter? and whom are we to consult with?

As for the first part of the question, we all know that the suggested referendum is no a constitutional law of a sovereign and independent state, as is the case in some countries, nor is it something like the position on abortion in democratic and secular states or on the standardization of currency, as happened in Europe… what is offered to us in Palestine is to ask people about or seek their opinion of whether Palestine belongs to us?

This is what we mean by saying "…constants are not subject to consultation"… We say that… our brothers in Hamas also say that… our "constant" is Palestine... the whole Palestine... However, the problem is that no one will ask us the question in the form of: "…Does Palestine belong to you?..." whatever the question is and regardless of its mood or form, our people will answer it under the following purport: would you feel satisfaction at death hunger, and siege?... or would you accept a solution according to which you of death, hunger and siege and you can live in a freak entity with a flag and a national anthem… in an entity that embodies the dream and symbol of "Peace for food"?!...

With regard to our stance on such a referendum… Imam Abu Hanifa (May God be pleased with him) said: "…Do not question a man who has no flour in his house…" This means that people are hungry… and, a man with the occupation knife plunged in his flesh and blood and death hovering over his head and about to fall on him, must not be asked about the fate and future of Palestine…

With respect to the people expected to be included in the referendum… Does the referendum in clued part of the Palestinian people, which means the people of the West Bank and Gaza Strip? Does it involve the entire Palestinian people all over the world? Does it include all Arabs and Muslims? Our answer is the same as the one presented by Hamas in the movement's covenant: "The land of Palestine is an Islamic "Waqf" [endowment]" which means the land of Palestine belongs to all Arabs and Muslims... It is also known that Waqf does not relate only to one generation… consequently, under this reality of weakness, defeat and power imbalance, the current generation is not entitled to decide the fate of Palestine or confiscate the right of future generations in it, blocking the road in front of these generations and preventing them from acquiring enough force to achieve liberation…

Hence, the Jihad Movement's position considers accepting the referendum principle concerning any final solution to the Palestine cause an extremely dangerous matter… especially when proposed by Hamas, a movement that still enjoys the confidence and respect of millions of Arabs and Muslims…

Above all, we shall not forget that both Oslo agreements, and the reality they produced, had not come into being as a result of a referendum and that Fatah Movement – or the P.L.O – had not consulted with any of the Palestinians… If they had not consulted with any one at the beginning of this ill-gotten bargain, (Oslo bargain), why then propose a referendum on its catastrophic consequences?!... If the whole world were serious in considering the referendum a way of giving the Palestinian people their rights, let the world then give the Palestinians their right of self determination instead of concluding bargains inside closed rooms as a result of force-imbalance in the interest of Israel, before asking the Palestinian people to express their opinion of something that is imposed on them by force of arms…

At the beginning of Oslo, they promised our people a new Singapore, but they forgot, or maybe pretended to have forgotten that the state of Singapore had been cut out of the Muslim state of Malaysia, when the Chinese inhabitants (most of them had been brought from abroad) were given the right of self – determination and decided to dissociate them selves from Malaysia… thus, Singapore was established… In the Palestine Case, they promised us a Singapore under occupation, rather than after liberation or as a result of practicing the right of self – determination… It is a pattern of injustice, falsity and misguidance practiced against the Palestinian people since the outset of the conflict… Yet, they want us to participate in this and be part of these misleading ceremonies! However, under no circumstances shall we become part of this game, because we refuse even consulting with the entire Palestine… our talk about self determination was to show the enormity and ugliness of the unjust and double – standard – acts practiced against our people and our nation by the west and its foster child Israel…

 

As for the fate of Palestine, it is the responsibility of the nation at large, since – for us – Palestine is a verse of the [Holy] book and any one who squanders even a part of it is as negligent as the one who wastes the Book… Hence, consulting with people about Palestine is equivalent to consulting with them about the Glorious Qur'an! We have always said that…

To conclude, I would like to encapsulate the purport of our discourse in the following: Yes, we have a vision and a strategy, how ever, it would not be adequate that only the members of "Islamic Jihad" be satisfied with this strategy, while others may call it a strategy of rejection, with all injustice and unfairness included in such a depiction… In Hamas, we have developed vision and positions… However, some might fear that we duplicate the experience of Fatah Movement… In order to get out of this paradox and of the impasse witnessed in the Palestinian arena, we must dot the (i's) and cross the (t's) and acknowledge the presence of two projects and two programs in the Palestinian sphere: The settlement program and the resistance program… To prevent the transformation of the resistance program, intentionally or unintentially, into an element that may serve the settlement project, a unified strategy must we set for the resistant forces… a "liberation strategy", as opposed to the "settlements strategy" adopted by the "Arab regime" and the P.L.O… We understand that Hamas, The Islamic Jihad and the resistance forces can not accomplish what our all nation were unable to achieve in this age… But the liberation goal must never terminate… On this account, out of concern about our sister Hamas, as a strategic partner in the resistance program and as a faction that takes the lead in the Palestinian national project. We say that the strategy of power sharing, which involves a double profile of "Hamas the authority" and "Hamas the resistance", needs revision, in parallel with serious work on a unified strategy for the forces of resistance, so as not to disperse power and efforts and lest the harvest of blood and sacrifices goes to the mill of enemies and adversaries, from where we know or from where we don't… This strategy should be based upon differentiation between practicing power under the umbrella of Oslo and the occupation, on the one hand, and practicing resistance against occupation… Authority is something and resistance is something else… leave the authority, with all its misdeeds, to its adherents… and let the resistance, with all its brightness and cleanness, remain the path of its adherents... and, between these two subgroups of the same people, should lie all the needed, but also recommended co-existence, rather than clash, so that confrontation remains only against the Zionist enemy…

 

Do you think the enemy would initiate a new regional war against Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in the foreseeable future? How do you see the enemy's prime minister Declaration regarding his entity's readiness to completely withdraw from the Golan (heights) and how serious is this proposition? …Is it just a maneuver on the Palestinian negotiation course, or would it really open the door for peace with Syria? and, is the region still open to the prospect of war?

 In order to understand this thorny and delicate subject and as it relates – first and foremost – to Israel and its security, we have to start with the Israeli view of the regional situation, especially after Israel's defeat in the July, 2006 war…

…Israel sees itself on the threshold of an existential dangerous era, in the face of many threats… The first is what they call the threat of the Iranian nuclear file, with Hezbollah and their missile power, the bifurcate Palestinian threat of the Palestinian resistance and the Islamic state of affairs represented by Hamas and the Islamic Jihad in the west Bank and Gaza Strip…, in addition to the presence of the 48 Palestinians in the beard of the (Zionist) entity… and, then, there is Syria, an ally to all those, with its occupied land and on going effort to rebuild its military strength…

How would Israel deal with all these threats? Many people believed – and still believe – that war will erupt in the region before the wind – up of Bush presidency at the end of 2008, either with an American strike leveled at Iran (perhaps unlikely at present), or with an Israeli war against Hezbollah and Syria… …Since we believe war against any of these parties would any how affect Israel, as it is Israel war, we shall focus on the Israeli position on war… In our opinion, there is a certain equation that manipulates Israel's decision in terms of going or not going to war: if and when Israel feels that the costs of accepting the current situation, occupied by such threats to its existence, are higher than that of and war initiated by its existence, it would most certainly consider war a rightful choice…

In our view, Israel has not reached this moment yet... The Israelis are certain that the cost of any war (after the experience of July, 2006) would even be much higher than that of all dangers and threats of the current situation…In addition, the most dangerous threat, as far as the Israelis are concerned (the Iranian nuclear file) is a future, rather than direct or instantaneous one… Here, there exists a breach from which war may erupt: if Israel makes a comparison between any future threat and the chance offered by the presence of Bush and Dick chinney at the white House… This could lead Israel to risk another battle against any party, particularly Hezbollah, and say to the United States that a certain danger threatened its existence, so that to force the Bush Administration into joining in… However, we think that the prospect of such scenario being realized is still feeble and that Israel still believes – according to our evaluation – there is enough time to cope differently with the components of this existential threat:… through dissociation, siege or buying time to watch the regional situation and buttress up the home front – Israel's most salient weakness in any potential war (as of July, 2006)… Hence, the Israelis opted for a settlement with Syria, showing readiness to withdraw completely from the Golan (Heights) – a serious offer, we think, in spite of Israel's desperate need of the Heights from a strategic point of view, especially in terms of safeguarding water supplies… Never the less, Israel needs to isolate Iran and besiege Hezbollah and Palestinian resistance forces more any thing else, particularly in this stage…

But, how much does this cost? In Israel, there are those who argue… especially in the military establishment...

That if the price was to return the Golan Heights, and then it must be paid in order to achieve these objectives, in addition to [peace] with Syria, as a pretext to reach comprehensive peace and naturalization with the rest of the Arabs… Through such an approach, perhaps Israel wants to repeat the Sinai experience with Egypt, where, where it managed to drive the Egyptians out of the Arab – Israeli conflict and returned Sinai to them, without actually returning it thanks to certain security arrangements… Then it did the same thing, to a lesser degree, with respect to Gaza Strip, where it walked out, without actually parting the area as sovereignty remained in the hands of the Israelis…

Now, Israel may think of taking Syria away from Iran and out of the regional "resistance and rejection axis" by returning the Golan Height and adopting security arrangements similar to that of the Sinai model: leave without really parting!...

As for the connection between this subject and the Palestinian dossier, we think it is greater and more dangerous than sheer maneuvering and playing on courses, although something like this also exists… The same Israeli argument advocating there turn of Golan Heights to Syria involves Israel's readiness to deal with the prospect of eventual collapse of both the settlement process and the Palestinian Authority… There is a difference between the collapse of settlement and Authority, when the resistance forces in Palestine can still find in the Iranian Syrian and Hezbollah position an "incubator" that fosters them and the resistance, and the collapse of the settlement process – an already disintegrated axis, when Syria is in peace with Israel… Even the advocates of the settlement project in Palestine would feel as if they were strangled and the horizons of their project would become extremely limited… which means settlement with Syria would besiege the settlement and resistance in Palestine – an anticipated trend of Israeli thinking…

In spite of the perceived seriousness reflected by the enemy prime minister's proposition and his personal need to settlement with Syria, in addition to a similar need on behalf of the Turkish mediator, there remain several obstacles to peace on this track, most importantly:

= The American position towards Syria;

= The Israeli internal opposition;

= The Syrian stance, in light of perceived Israeli devious methods, whereas the Syrians understand these methods very well and know the difference between their relation with Iran and Hezbollah, their presence on the "rejection axis" against the American policy and occupation of Iraq and the price Israel would pay for severing this relation and getting Syria off this axis!

Hence, I think the clarification of the over all picture would take a relatively long time as the Israeli domestic arena (the political one in particular) does not seem prepared to accept such a project and the political race in Israel (until the 2010 elections) would be driven by stringency and the preparation for war, rather than the desire for settlement and peace-making!... In addition, the American posture makes an essential element in this matter – if the Republicans win the coming elections without reaching a certain settlement concerning the Iranian nuclear dossier, then war in then region would be inevitable… not necessarily this year and regardless of the potential front (Iran, Syria or Lebanon)… war is surely coming… The Iranian nuclear file remains the password in the eyes of Israel and the U.S. Administration… When some sources indicated that the United States would attack Iran on any account, using tactical nuclear weapons in the war, former British Foreign Minister Jack Straw was amazed and noted, in April, April, 2006, that such a step would be sheer madness... However, he lost his post only one month after that talk! In the West, there is a widespread conviction the British minister said that only after he had heard that the nuclear attacks would really happen!

Even if some surprising events took place to change the course of regional issues and Israel managed to drive Syria away from Iran, Hezbollah and Palestine and agreed on a settlement concerning the Golan Heights, the remaining essential problem in the region would still be "the Palestinian cause"… Egypt withdrew from the conflict and restored Sinai; however the con flick is not over yet… The Golan [Heights] could be returned to Syria tomorrow, but the conflict would not end as its basis and axis are "Palestine"… We are confident that Syria would not compromise the nation's right in Palestine nor hand over one inch of the Golan, because the Syrians know more than anyone else that the danger threatening them and the entire nation was not the loss of Golan Heights nor the occupation of Gaza, but rather was – and still is – Israel's existence on the map and in the neighbor hood.. School children in Syria learn that their conflict with the Zionist project and Israel is existential and not just a border dispute… Israel's nuclear weapons and long-range missiles are not to deter the Palestinian people, nor to bomb Gaza or Ramallah, or even to hit Damascus or Beirut, but rather to threaten every Arab and Muslim on the most distant sports of the globe… especially in Egypt and the Saudi Arabia, for their considerable weight in the Arab world… Israel, to borrow Moshe Dayan's words, "…Should always act as a mad dog in the region…" The danger of this "dog" has never been considered to threaten the Palestinian people alone, though it keeps biting the Palestinian flesh around the clock… The danger of Israel has never excluded anyone and, now that Afghanistan and Iraq have fallen under occupation, while Iran and Syria are being threatened, we find ourselves in front of a complicated and fierce Zionist – American project aimed at subjugating the whole region… Responding to such danger, or con fronting it, can not be done by turning a blind eye at the danger of Israel, nor by creating illusionary dangers, either among Arabs or between the Arabs and Iran…

Although Israel has reached its sixties, it came to realize that any Arab regimes confession of impotence against the Zionist project and that the final and historical Arab acceptance of Israel's existence has never happened… and will never happen… because it is in the hand of the masses, rather than the rulers…The whole matter lies with God (be he exalted) (…with God lies command, both before and later on…)… (Al-Roum [The (East) Romans], sura: 30, verse: 4)…

God promised us and he never breaks his promise… He promised us that Israel will not persist, but rather will vanish, God willing… (…Thus the warning about the next one came along to trouble your persons, and so they would enter the Mosque just as they had entered it in the first place, so they might utterly annihilate any thing they overcome…) (Al-Isra'a [The Night Journey], Sura: 17, verse: 7)…

 


·  Dr. Shallah was interviewed by Mr. Waleed Moahmmad Ali, director in chief, Baheth Center for Studies, and the interview was published in Baheth Studies magazine, spring 2008

 

 

 

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